Today we talk with Rio and Ben – they are opening a cidery on 900th South near 9th Central Market. Ben discusses the science of apples, his family has a long history running apple orchards! We also discuss the process of creating cider and why Utah legislature has hamstrung the ability for local cideries to exist! Strange Utah liquor laws and monoculture systems take over this conversation. They were a treat to talk with, and we are excited for another badass local cidery!